July 22, 2004

Nietzsche on unbelief


'Ye say, ye believe in Zarathustra? But of what account is Zarathustra! Ye are my believers: but of what account are all believers!

Ye had not yet sought yourselves: then did ye find me. So do all believers; therefore all belief is of so little account.'

Nietzsche, Thus Spoke Zarathustra, XXII, 'The Bestowing Virtue'.

Posted by mark k-p at July 22, 2004 09:33 AM




Wow - more coincidence engineering!
Just thinking about 'God is dead' and how different it was from the conventions of authoritative philosophical discourse. Located not only within a micronarrative, but in the mouth of a carrier deliberately rendered implausible by the title 'The Madman'. The devastation of authority is concretely enacted by the (hyperstitional) mode of communication.
Death to philosophy! (But it takes a long time for such messages to reach us)

PS. GOD IS = 99, the Uttunullistic desert Reza has already described as 'double death'.
'9' for obvious reasons the mortuary digit, 'my only friend, the End', the 'full-body' of zero. 99 = THETA (the Greek death sign, acronym for Thanatos). (YHVH = 99 = QABBALA = ISLAM). The existence of God already counts as the death of God.
GOD IS DEAD = 149, 35th prime (related by alphanumeric qabbala to the 35th letter, Z (neoroman omega, the end)). TX ((::)((:))).

Posted by: Nick at July 23, 2004 03:53 AM



Naturally, Nietzsche is multiply fascinating from the hyperstitional POV --- the whole connection between Zarathustra and Z-crowd, for instance.

Also - was talking to scanshifts about the way in which Nietzsche is close to getting unbelief, but seems to botch the insight. The claim that the falseness of a judgement is less important than the effects it has is typical; but why 'falseness'? He talks about numbers as false but necessary for beings such as us, for instance - but from out POV it wd obv be better to say that numbers are neither true nor untrue.

Posted by: mark at July 23, 2004 07:28 AM



Mark - but shouldn't we be trying to take things to the next hyperstitional level (or cycle) by abandoning the implicit prospect of a unique correct and authoritative hyperstitional 'doctrine' - as if hyperstition was a 'flashy Hegel'?
Nietzsche's use of 'Zarathustra' (along with other puppets) seems IMHO more important than his 'own' selected vocabulary when it comes to his relation to H.
It's for specific carriers to agonize about getting it 'right' - the task of the hyperstitional engineer is to make it many

Posted by: Nick at July 23, 2004 08:19 AM



yeh, we can distinguish between the hyperstitional vectors operative in N's prelude to a philosophy of a future and N's own descriptions of that philosophy...

Posted by: mark at July 23, 2004 10:29 AM



"I am all the names in history"

Posted by: Nick at July 23, 2004 02:48 PM




>>> It's for specific carriers to agonize about getting it 'right' - the task of the hyperstitional engineer is to make it many.

That’s the point. IMHO, Decimal Numeracy is a key for “making it many”.

9 (Kaprekar number) is the decimal progression of the Gog-Magog Axis to awake Tellurian Omega or the Unlife of War (we should dig up our Gog-Magog diagram later). Arabic Noh (nine) fully lurks in the Zone 5 of the numogram: Noh = Noon (50) and Haa (5). 45 is a direct krypt between the zone 9 and 5. 45 is another Kaprekar number, plus 45= 4 + 5 = 9. Also: both Noon and Haa are among Muqataat Letters which are the gates to the Koran and Islamic Apocalypticism. (more later).

Posted by: Reza at July 23, 2004 06:02 PM



PS. 99 = Kaprekar number

Posted by: Reza at July 24, 2004 03:39 AM



Reza - OK, on my way to check out Kaprekar numbers
++ looking forward to the "more later"
(9/45 nexus deep in Age of Khattak 'territory')

Posted by: Nick at July 24, 2004 02:15 PM



PS. For anyone following Reza's trail here, this link might be useful:


Posted by: Nick at July 26, 2004 05:50 AM



This is a detailed and remarkable article on Kaprekar numbers (you can also use ‘Self-numbers’ and ‘Kaprekar series’ as your search enquiries): http://www.cs.uwaterloo.ca/journals/JIS/VOL3/iann2a.html

Posted by: Reza at July 26, 2004 07:33 AM



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