>>>there is no salvation for China and its overloaded industry.
What about the proposed trans-Siberian pipeline? If approved, how would that factor in?
Kind of echoing Kristen's q., is the Codex suggesting an essential affinity between Islam and napht, or just a historically accidental one? Can see this alternative far too crude [sic] and probably some type of time-twisted teleonomy is involved, but still quite obscure ...
Anyway, thanks for making this find public, it's obviously a document of immense significance.
Posted by: Hype-Zombie at May 28, 2005 01:53 AMKristen- Well, that is “kindof” off-topic, don’t you think? Don’t think it is what they are looking for… clearly the discussion is Middle East, China, US and WoT. Why drag in Russia?
Posted by: renee at May 28, 2005 02:37 AMMr. Zombie
>>> Kind of echoing Kristen's q., is the Codex suggesting an essential affinity between Islam and napht, or just a historically accidental one? Can see this alternative far too crude [sic] and probably some type of time-twisted teleonomy is involved, but still quite obscure ...
IMHO, there is no certain answer for this question ... we should look for more pieces of the Codex. However, I think this affinity was once a historical / unintended or even based on geopolitical opportunities, however during the last five decades, it has turned into a very essential interconnection (with a heavy religious potency). Napht is no more a commodity that islamic countries export but part of the ISLAM (Submission) to its religious (un)Apocalypse; and anything in the path of submission is a pillar of Islam, while Namaz is a personal path of submission, napht is the short path of submission for the Umma. Seems Islam has long reached a state of a twisted ‘consciousness’ (can anyone suggest an alternative word?) in regard to its intrinsic and foundational connection with napht and how, it lubricates the path of submission (but we know such a lubed path is also very slippery). Consequently, at this point, in Islamic countries, any significant decision related to napht is discussed and made by religious figures not the politicians or economists.
The topic I found central in the piece, however, was not napht but the truly perverse understanding of geopolitical reconfiguration of Jihad in a way that even pagans can hardly escape from the consequences.
Renee,
Well, not off-topic according to our Pietic standards ;) ... because interestingly, Iran’s government has, too, been interested in this pipeline project for a while (I don’t know why). By the way, if China ever succeeds to suck oil from Russia (don’t forget that the Japanese are also working on this project), the Russian pipeline changes China’s relationships with Islamic countries (esp. Middle East).
Kristen,
The short pipeline from Angarsk (am I right?) along the coast of Baikal will certainly have an impact on this scenario. But two problems here: (1) The oil reserves which feed this pipeline are not very large (and in fact very small compared to the oil reserves in Sudan), they merely slow the process but not entirely changing the Sudan scenario. (2) Right now, the imploding Japan is very hungry to get hold of this pipeline (even offered to finance the project); if Japan fails, the current semi-stable connections between Japan and China will eventually start to corrode, since Japan mainly secures its basic energy supplies (oil at the top) from Asia (its geographical location is highly troublesome in this regard) and China has always been the biggest obstruction on this energy-supplying path. Taking control of the trans-Siberian pipeline by China fortifies and strengthens this obstruction and that inevitably gives rise to new politico-economic or even military issues between Japan and China on the one hand and Japan with other major oil-producing countries on the other hand.
Yes, the pipeline would begin in Amgarsk. Thought is was on-topic as the US is very interested in the trans-Siberian pipeline. Pipeline debate keeps getting hotter and hotter. I have attended meetings in DC this year on this issue (now I really shouldn’t be posting under my real name)…
>>>(1) The oil reserves which feed this pipeline are not very large (and in fact very small compared to the oil reserves in Sudan), they merely slow the process but not entirely changing the Sudan scenario.
Highly classified documents indicate that there is a MUCH LARGER oil reserve waiting to be tapped.
>>>(2) Right now, the imploding Japan is very hungry to get hold of this pipeline (even offered to finance the project);
Yes, financing… personally, think this project is a bit of a pipedream. With NGO pressures over environmental concerns (Amur Leopards, Tigers and Maritime biodiversity, etc.) in the end even the Japanese Bank will have to step back from financing.
I suppose the question I am wondering is why is the US sooooo interested, motives I think might be murkier then they appear.
Kristen,
>>> Yes, the pipeline would begin in Amgarsk. Thought is was on-topic as the US is very interested in the trans-Siberian pipeline. Pipeline debate keeps getting hotter and hotter. I have attended meetings in DC this year on this issue (now I really shouldn’t be posting under my real name)…
This is superb ... hope you provide us with more information on the whole issue. Meanwhile, we have recovered more pieces from the Codex, will try to translate them soon.
>>> Highly classified documents indicate that there is a MUCH LARGER oil reserve waiting to be tapped.
Well, not very classified because I have already read an unpublished report on these oil reserves in eastern Siberia (if memory doesn’t fail) ;) ... Russia has agreed to consider the proposals presented by the Japanese energy officials in regard to these oil reserves (the Russians are very careful not to destabilize the economy of the far-eastern countries.)
>>> Yes, financing… personally, think this project is a bit of a pipedream. With NGO pressures over environmental concerns (Amur Leopards, Tigers and Maritime biodiversity, etc.) in the end even the Japanese Bank will have to step back from financing.
Very interesting ... this makes the Japan’s future oil crisis worse than what has been predicted.
>>> I suppose the question I am wondering is why is the US sooooo interested, motives I think might be murkier then they appear.
That’s indeed a riddle, unfortunately we can’t trace the US motives from here but the Russians have never been reliable allies esp. for the US. For obvious reasons Russia is even ready to risk its own political dynamics for the sake of Iran’s ‘limitless generosity’ (if you know what I’m talking about).
Thanks for your very helpful contribution ... surly, the hyperstition’s napht-nexus look forward to more info on this front as the Blob gets closer to the surface.