nick - excellent article. today, i discovered that the "force" that keeps this whole economic ball of wax together is not MONEY, but PRICES. i probably can take another look at your mechanomics with more clarity. (Kohn's paper mentions "atheoretical econometric methods" -- maybe that's you).

TOO MUCH MATHS refers to "mathematizing the theory of value" where the traditional economic Value Paradigm is top-down, rational, maximizing and unrealistic. VP does not reflect what is occurring in the market, doesn't correctly identify all players, and somehow magically produces PRICE without the direct interaction of any individual (ie, the price is what it is and cannot be changed). otoh, the Exchange Paradigm is realistic, bottom-up (and therefore emerges from actual behavior), prices must be set by someone, and it recognizes that exchange is not "costless".

"Since the exchange paradigm builds up from individual behavior rather than down from trading equilibrium, any systematic pattern of behavior will do. Indeed, economics as a discipline has no special claim to understanding the nature of individual behavior; presumably psychologists and cognitive scientists have much more to say about it. The stock in trade of economics, rather, is its understanding of the _aggregate outcome_ of individual behavior—or more precisely, of the 'unintended consequence of intended actions.' For that purpose, we are not obliged to assume individual behavior; we may ask what it actually is."

in a nutshell: VP is more dogmatic & rational and humans are viewed as maximizing robots (ok ok, i get cold rationalism now) vs. EP which is more naturalistic, irrational & based on actual market realities. btw, Kohn's paper does a great job defining both paradigms.

i loved reading all this because it helps me understand my astro system as defining an "aggregate outcome" -- the AO-extraction of several hundred astronomical points. these points traverse smooth path-sphere intelligences blending individual, tellurian-omegic & intergalatic forces emerging irruptive autophagic outcomes. a lot to consider.

i do be concerned about your sidder

tellUtuureluurs from watching in-, un- and declenation (let alone cleavage, since the once upon a time of fitness is really too much to ask; no way the worn puzzle pieces of a long since destroyed planet milldyke can hopi da dopi or humble da dompel) yet?????

October 04, 2004
Nonhuman primates discovered to have a sense of fairness (by a dutchman with lovely assistence)
MONKEYS REJECT UNEQUAL PAY
http://www.dangoldstein.com/dsn/
decision science news

I never know exactly what to expect (before opening rock up to turn some weather in before it comes out any better) either

http://www.dangoldstein.com/dsn/archives/2004/10/nonhuman_primat.html the more specific url

more on decision/urteil/oordeel youknit of aggreglomerates which used to a mere one in the whorecoves

hey piet, you may like this. primatologist phyllis c. lee reports in science mag about tool use in capuchin monkeys:

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20041210/D86SGH580.html

#556-PHYLLIS {04Ta58} [HAMAL] • Compass Rose: NW by W • HEART CHAKRA {Anahata} • DISTANCE: 303º FROM YILDUN @ PATH 2: ILLUMINATING INTELLIGENCE–The SECOND (Original #2) Path is CHOKMAH (Wisdom) = II THE DYAD (Deuces) :: EON PHASE: 31 (Phase Arc 300º ~ Waning Sextile) : Implementation, Forces of Integration, Whole-Seeing, Accepting • [[ TX Prime [028] 107 = ((::)::) ]] #39-UNUNUTTIX [TAURUS 00º–TAURUS 07º] ~ ZONE 9::3 (Tic) Particle Clocks: Chaotic Xenodemon of Absolute Coincidence; Numerical connection through the absence of any link.

AQ 556 = UNEQUAL DISTRIBUTION OF GAINS

talk about schwindlig, tureluurs, dizzy and such .. ..

look what I just found, got sent even: http://www.shamantrix.net/

is this a correct modeling of the asteroid weaveil?

piet - shamantrix.net - awe..some!

"we a veil"? yeah, i guess so. (but don't tell vauung tho).

Frater Achad's :The Anatomy of the Body of God:
http://www.hermetic.com/browe-archive/achad/anatomy/anatomy1.htm

just added a ton more stuff to the big list, should post it in the next half hour.

is hyperstition on hiatus?

web hell this end - don't think "hiatus" will be very prolonged (sitting on some stuff (on Shoggoths) to stick up once i can get into MT)

northanger - been checking out your site, admit to being somewhat overwhelmed (especially by 'biglist').
All the nomad stuff calling out for a response too ... (haven't had a chance to follow up all your links yet ...)
Didn't see anything on striking monkeys though.

CONCISE, CRISP AND TO THE POINT

he aint always but this is that sort of textbook material:
http://www.epwijnants-lectures.com/earlieststates.html excellent anthropology appetizer/intro with one ref: G. Algaze, Initial Social Complexity in Southwestern Asia: The Mesopotamian Advantage. 2001, Current Anthropology 42:199-233.

A quote: "Because early villagers, who had become increasingly specialized in the exploita­tion of local resources, knew a great deal about near and more distant places and the resources in those areas, village life led also to increased exchange with distant villages, although much exchange was probably "down-the-line," from village to village, rather than direct, long-distance travel . Some of the resources gained through this exchange, such as obsidian, were practical for daily life. Others, such as semi-precious stones, symbolized the status of certain individuals who acquired them. Exchange had social ramifications, since it could also create status. Whereas tasks of production and distribution in early villages could be negotiated within the kinship and social system, exchange required individuals to establish ties to people who were not relatives.

The existence of village life also provided opportunities for those who could exploit areas that were marginal for agriculture. Some people (often, presumably, kinsmen of villagers) could convert calories from less fertile land by tending animals and moving them seasonally to better pastures. These specialized herders could only flourish, however, by exchanging animal products for agricultural goods and craft products produced by villagers. Consequently, new divisions of labor arose in villages, in which women occupied with larger numbers of childen and food preparation also produced textiles and craft items, which could be exchanged with other villages and with the pastoral nomads. Partial crania of animals, figurines, wall paintings, and feathers (of raptors, whose bones are found) were employed in dances and ceremonies in early villages, which were also the scenes of social and economic interactions between settled and mobile people."

other new bits of interest:

http://www.epwijnants-lectures.com/firsts-ufo3.html UFO's are vessels of modern cargo cultists

Eric Wijnants (who talks to disgusting folks like Randi, yuk!) in his news section on march 7th:
Today I arrived from Singapore in Eastern Europe from where I will go for one week to Russia. During the last two days of my stay in Singapore I finally gained access to the archive of the Red Swastika Society there, and was allowed to copy one item of interest to me for some time, a letter to Adolf Hitler, published below. And following my research in Russia I will present a major comment on the historical developments in Chinese Buddhism during the lead-up to WWII. -----
http://sociologyesoscience.com/news/jdcollapse.html Here is talks about Jared Diamond's latest book

http://sociologyesoscience.com/civilization_start/beginning.html
The combined impact of orbital change and amplifying mechanisms has been the see-sawing of climate from glacial to interglacial and back every 100,000 years, often with an extraordinarily rapid switch from one state to another. The global warming that brought the ice age to its close created localities of abundant resource which people claimed as their own and were prepared to fight for, such as in the Nile valley at 14,000 Bc, northern Australia at 6000 Bc and southern Scandinavia at 5000 BC

a longish thingo on Blavatsky says:

The occultist enterprise was an attempt to gainsay the ascendancy of a monolithic materialism by employing its own Enlightenment vocabulary of reason. Notions of evolution and progression were reconstrued as cosmic imperatives, so too the traditional metaphorical discourse of Western esotericism was made popularly acceptable by being represented as a reasonable spiritual alternative. That Blavatsky "press-ganged" reason into service against itself is no more, and probably no more less, quixotic than equally poignant attempts by such other children of the Aufklaerung as Karl Marx (1818-1883), Sigmund Freud (1818-1883) and, ironically, Darwin himself. These men presented humanity as being in thrall either to an economics-driven metahistory, an ultimately irrational psychopathology or the dictates of an unforgiving, unpredictable, and unconscious nature. Such paradigms, though presented in the vesture of reason, ultimately reflect a world in which reason cannot penetrate to the core of universal processes - and in which those who rely upon it are as ill-fated as anybody else. Blavatsky's "rationalising of the non-rational" in order to combat dreaded materialism - a quest personified by the figure of the spiritualised Master - may not have been so immediately influential as the formulations of Marx, Freud, and Darwin, but in all seriousness it may simply be too early to tell.

oh by the way, I think I've hit upon the name my adaptation of wessel's thingy by way of frateroic see through doodlings is going to gain itself one by: DOMPELPOMP A PERFECT COUNTERACTIVE TO THE DUMP AND PUMP OF SKIZKAPITOL

CAN'T EFFECTIVELY RAISE AND GENTILIZE CHARGE POTENTIAL WITH COMPRESSION DIFF DRIVEN DEVICES UNLESS YOUR CONTRACTS (FOR SWEATEQUITY, ETC) DON'T SPRING LEAKS EITHER; IF THE OVER 70% OF FOLKS GALLUP SAYS BELIEVE IN ufo COVER UPPAGE COULD GIVE THIS THING (description in nov04) A MENTAL SPIN the anthropodian ride would ease collectively and considerably .. . .

ps: northanger, what do you think of this: http://sociologyesoscience.com/crowleyscientology.html

that's pretty damn good piet.etc, (on the 23rd prime with RADIOCOMMUNICATA, hmm)

AQ 248 = SKIZKAPITOL = CTHULHU CULT

#3-JUNO {09Pi25} [SKAT] • Compass Rose: WSW • SACRAL CHAKRA {Svadisthana} • DISTANCE: 248º FROM YILDUN @ PATH 20: INTELLIGENCE of WILL–The TWENTIETH (Original #23) Path from Hod to Geburah = ATU IX THE HERMIT = VIRGO = YOD :: EON PHASE: 25 (Phase Arc 240º ~ Waning Trine) : Re-evaluation, Holistic Insight, Seeing Big Pic, Emerging • 31-STAR PRIME SERIES: [23]-[39]-[79] :: PRIME NUMBERS: [83]-[167]-[401] -- [[ TX PRIME [023] 083 = (((:)(:))) ]] #32-NUMKO [PISCES 04º–PISCES 11º] ~ ZONE 8::4 Keeper of Old Terrors: Cyclic Chronodemon of Autochthony; Prowls Sink-Current; Necrospeleology (abysmal patience rewarded); Subduction (and carnivorous fish); Vulcanism (and bacterial intelligence).

nick - "overwhelmed" - yeah right, lol. what current are YOU on? i can feel it over here.

"nomad stuff" - jane austen! smokin'. awesome paper.

"striking monkeys" - you think i should use asteroid #13681 monty python to represent the ccru? or maybe the #8749 beatles. which one works best? or maybe #1543 bourgeois...

piet, what do you want me to say?

http://sociologyesoscience.com/crowleyscientology.html

http://www.spaink.net/cos/rmiller/index.html
http://www.aci.net/kalliste/jack_parsons.htm
http://www.babalon.net/articles/art_index.html

oops, scrap that, google finds 6.920 dompelpomp mentions and sales already .. maybe I should call it indefatiguable airbubble treadmill instead . . ..think of the ads: 'not only hot air rises, not all air dissipates, some don't give themselves airs they harness them . . .nothing wears as well as an inexhaustible airbell train racing riding and running up from the weakest maws and gates of very hell

look see can't you tell

piety. tell what? (make it quick! i need to hit the reality button & go to bed)

look see can't you tell?

arrgh!

jus finishing a rhyme . .. .sorry it ain't any more mysterious than that .though this could be the 23rd post in thread . .. mother couldn't reach me for hours last nite either .. . .left the phone off the hook which got it too empty to respond this early morn

sorry again, went off to make a meal with some left over millet, carrot juice .. . .

sleepy deepy and you will rise another day .. to .. get slippy dippy with your grippy laytour

arrgh! = allah = causeless hatred .. .. and .. . . your car?

other than the fact that DOMPELPOMP = TIME TRAVEL, piet, i just can't get what you're communicating here ... (babelfish is no help)

"Dompelpomp are a pump which is entirely immersed in at verpompen the fluid. Traction can electric be (like at the so-called cellar pump with which cellars and kruipruimtes are drained), or mechanically (as at a pump in an oil field which has been linked with a nodding donkey)."

nighty!

DOMPEL = TAKFIR = OLD ONE

a vituosa is her own reward
become my perfect enemy
dolf leendert boek
ascry poetpiet's financials
DUST NET-ORGANIZING PHOTONIC OVERMIND

"arrgh! = allah = causeless hatred .. .. and .. . . your car?"

HA.ha.ha.

720, rotflmao.

"i just can't get what you're communicating here" -- you mean to seriously tell me you forget I'm usually on about the same old tired unrealized potentials? .. .that you in this case forgot this:

hermetic.com/browe-archive/achad/anatomy/anatomy7.htm Couple this figure to the diagrams I posted in several november files, the ones related to Wessel di Wesseli's perpetuum mobile, and presto, no more energy troubles, no more bombtec potential dangers, woosh we wishawash way beyond the wishywashy

in feb05too.htm (the light on dark bleu text halfway down) => click my nick . . . . or . . .

http://hyperstition.abstractdynamics.org/archives/005035.html

what can i do to help you here? other than go to bed, of course.

http://www.orffyre.com/speculation.html

maybe you could talk to that Cohen flash capital handler who invests in submersion art (bought a huge dead tiger shark in tank recently)

http://www.forbes.com/maserati/billionaires2004/LIRPZMO.html?passListId=10&passYear=2004&passListType=Person&uniqueId=PZMO&datatype=Person

WOW, thanks, I'll write jcollins@free-energy.co.uk

ok, what's stevie's number?

New Wall Street rich buying up famous art
... led by Steven Cohen, is busily snapping up world famous art. ... British artist
Damien Hirst's 14-foot tiger shark, submerged in a tank of formaldehyde. ...
news.tradingcharts.com/forex/0/9/64264290.html - 18k - In cache - Gelijkwaardige pagina's

Financial shark leaves tooth marks on art world
... Leading the way is Steven Cohen, a publicity-shy hedge fund magnate living in
... or four-meter, tiger shark, submerged in a tank of formaldehyde. ...
www.iht.com/articles/2005/03/03/news/collect.html - 33k - In cache - Gelijkwaardige pagina's

Um, don't laugh
... It's a 14-foot tiger shark submerged in formaldehyde.? Neat huh? ... by the
way, is Steven Cohen, low-profile billionaire, a perfect example of those ...
www.losingmylastname.blog.com/ - 54k - 9 maart 2005 - In cache - Gelijkwaardige pagina's

who is collins for gosh sakes!

oh that. bessler.

"Um, don't laugh" - i'm really happy (me with insufficient funds and no food in the pantry) that stevie has himself a boffo shark. really, i am. honestly! i'll call him later today and ask for a couple of million to get our project off the ground. (do we have a business plan yet?)

now, i'm going to bed. lol.

(we must be in the hippy hyper dippy zone -- that's why nobody's around anymore -- they've managed to shunt us off over here!!) wow.

no no no don't risk your soul getting in with the likes of him!!!!!!!! I'd much rather be kidding widthya.

rotflmao
rotflmao

can i go to bed now?!

http://www.besslerwheel.com/index.shtml

no no no don't risk your soul dealing with the likes of him; I 'd much rather be kidding widthya .. ..like .. . how bout buying the house collins says this about: "The massive base of the mill still stands, decaying, weatherworn and utterly neglected, in a small town in Germany. (See the pictures to the right.)" http://www.free-energy.co.uk/wheelframeset.htm

more.....perpetualpietthingys
http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/museum/unwork.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpetual_motion_machine

more asteroids...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astronomical_Society_of_the_Pacific
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Wolf

"how bout buying the house" - ok. we can buy the house. yes, i'll start saving. i've got, um, about five bucks on me right now. minus $1.75 for washing ... that's a good start.

I'm on my way to dresden soon, I'll see if I can't swing by .. ..

so .. ..that viper isn't YOUR car I guess. ..

nope. my chariot is a saturn.

good night. piet.

sleep tight (hugles and tuckles

wait. atbash cipher.

The secrets of Kings and Councillors, I will be silent about…

…and do ye still not understand?

http://www.sai.tue.nl/research/archive/publications/waarom_eng.htm
As an illustration of this last issue, we refer to a discussion of the author with the Belgian artist Di Wesseli, who tried to get in touch with Dutch universities in the late 1980’s to support him in developing a working model for a perpetual mobile that he claimed to have invented. He proposed a complex assembly of hinged rods and compressible compartments that, partially submerged in water, would expand against the water pressure, and therefore would generate kinetic energy. He did not accept the objection that his machine could not work because it would violate the law of energy conservation. He held the opinion that energy conservation was a purely formal hypothesis, relating non-perceivable constructs that do not necessarily refer to real entities. Indeed, energy is an abstract concept (a computational quantity) that is not perceivable ‘directly’. An eventual conservation of energy therefore was at best the indirect result of a finite number of experiments that could not carry any explanatory power. And certainly, it could carry no *predictive* power for that reason. On the other hand, he did accept argumentation involving computational quantities that refer to forces and displacements, as these are directly perceivable. Therefore, according to Wesseli, they relate to ‘real’ things.

not anymore no . .. 'atbash'?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpetuum_mobile
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atbash

first thing we do is look up the old wesselman (antwerp) .. . where do I send your ticket? .. if anything it'll get your asteroid head(aches) to break .. take . . .me ..up?
Mahler in his 1000+ eight symph: das ewig weibliche zieht uns hinan or hinauf I forget

"PERPETUUM MOBILE"
An assessment of the 'Laws of Thermodynamics' from a Gödelian viewpoint

A paper by Frater Choronzon

http://freespace.virgin.net/ecliptica.ww/book/perpetuum.htm

Although it cannot be derived from the principles of mechanics (classical or quantum), the Second Law is nontheless a crucial element in conventional perceptions of the way in which the universe works. Time, for example, is often defined by reference to it; the direction of time being that in which entropy increases, and on that basis time is held to be irreversible. Time travel is held to be impossible, since, if it were theoretically admissible, then the Second Law would be violated.

The existence of a Perpetual Motion Machine (PMM), similarly, would pose a threat to the Second Law, since it is held that for entropy to decrease it is necessary for some external input, usually in the form of "useful" energy or work, to be provided; whereas a PMM could be applied to decrease the entropy of a closed system, thus violating the Second Law.

What appears to be ignored is the phenomenon described by Mitchell Feigenbaum whereby ordered patterns can emerge spontaneously from systems exhibiting chaotic behaviour. Given that the "equilibrium state" of any system is the eventual endpoint where its entropy, or disorderedness, is at its maximum, it seems to me that the emergence of resonant patterns must represent some decrease in entropy, and to describe such a process by which Order can become manifest out of Chaos I have coined the term 'Misentropy'.

335 = PERPETUAL MOTION = ALPHANUMERIC VALUE = EARTH'S ATMOSPHERE = MUTATIONS OF TIME

"where do I send your ticket?" - ROTFLMAO

(28516) Mobius
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%F6bius_strip
(1294) Antwerpia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antwerp

good nicht, piet.

I'll feed you too
fancy swinging by http://newswire.indymedia.org/nl/newswire/2005/03/820588.shtml on s'endors endehors

nauighty nauighty Gwendyloon

#28516-MOBIUS {17Sg17} [ANTARES] • Compass Rose: SSE • 3RD EYE CHAKRA {Anja} • DISTANCE: 166º FROM YILDUN @ PATH 24: IMAGINATIVE INTELLIGENCE–The TWENTY-FOURTH (Original #19) Path {2nd Reciprocal Path} from Geburah to Chesed = ATU XIII DEATH = SCORPIO = NUN :: EON PHASE: 18 (Phase Arc 160º ~ Waxing Quad-Novile) : Protection, Test of Fitness, Viable Qualities, New World Order • 31-STAR PRIME SERIES: [15]-[62]-[64] :: PRIME NUMBERS: [47]-[293]-[311] -- [[ TX PRIME [015] 047 = (((:))(:)) ]] #22-BUBBAMU [SAGITTARY 14º–SAGITTARY 21º] ~ ZONE 7::1 After Babylon: Cyclic Chronodemon of Relapse; Prowls Surge-Current; Hypersea (marine life on land); Aquassassins (Black-Atlantis); Seawalls (dry-time, taboo on menstruation).

#1294-ANTWERPIA {01Le19Rx} [POLLUX] • Compass Rose: NNE • THROAT CHAKRA {Visuddhi} • DISTANCE: 30º FROM YILDUN @ PATH 30: COLLECTING INTELLIGENCE–The THIRTIETH (Original #13) Path Tiphereth to Kether = ATU XX THE AEON = FIRE = SHIN :: EON PHASE: 2 (Phase Arc 0º ~ Waxing Semi-Sextile) : Germination, Emergent, Fluid, Coming into Focus, Trad vs. New • 31-STAR PRIME SERIES: [3]-[50]-[88] :: PRIME NUMBERS: [5]-[229]-[457] -- [[ TX PRIME [003] 005 = ((:)) ]] #05-IXIDOD [CANCER 28º–LEO 05º] ~ ZONE 3::2 The Zombie-Maker: Amphidemon of Escape-velocity; 3rd Phase-limit; Crises through excess (micropause abuse); Illusion of progress (out of the frying-pan into the fire).

oops. Phase Arc 30º ~ Waxing Semi-Sextile

there you have it . .. white on black (transposably mirror/launched from this box here) . plenny of it, . .. enough to make a whole lotta worthwile grey if we manage to rub the all too volatile against the all too solid smart enough. .. in stages that stand the tooth of ages.. . when will grey reign greygnagwen?

It's going to take weeks just to work out remotely what's been going on here ...

How about a concise summary from each of you? ;)

nicky - the challenge with "quasi-hippy-cum-cult-initiation" is that you must jump in at the very deep end of the pool.

no lifeguards are present.

"gwendyloon" - harsh!

me harsh? *me* :squeek:

here's something you might find useful related to shoggoth (too scared to post over there since it may get a, um, harsh response)

descent into the maya underworld
http://magma.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/0411/feature2/index.html

sneaked out my compass. To my astonishment, in this cloud-blinded hollow in the forest, the ajq'ij had somehow placed the bottles exactly at the points of the four cardinal directions, with the beer-and-liquor pairing to the east, the most sacred direction.

The lilting, ballad-like music went on and on. We were all offered food and entreated to down yet more aguardiente. The ajq'ij himself had drunk far more than anyone else. Now he placed half the candles upright, digging little holes in the earth to support them, the whole design making a dotted square divided into four quadrants. Among the candles he placed cigarettes, half also upright. Then he lit the upright candles and cigarettes. At one point a candle drooped toward an unlit cigarette. One of the other men started to right it, but Juan stopped him with an urgent gesture. As we watched, the candle dipped by itself and lit the cigarette. This, we learned later, was the best possible sign, indicating that the ancestors, who "eat light," were accepting the offering.

also check out this splendid flash feature including the creation myth of the hero twins:

(flash required)
http://magma.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/0411/sights_n_sounds/media1.html

nicky - what? do you want me answer questions in here or deal with shoggothic stuff? you choose.

actually, i like this one better.

weir were we . ..
in stages that stand the tooth of ages..
for()ages on stages that EMPLOY the teeth for stages

yesterday by the side of the river I had fun lifting heavy rock and checking for sound after they landed back on their siblings again; one in particular could be rubbed into clay from which multidimensional flow patterns evolved when dribbling drops on it over the water across which the crr and coo of swans drifted (disturbed by militant rowers and boatpleasurists).

northanger - 'harsh' comment addressed to piet (obviously! - the crystal meth is clearly driving you into paranoid delirium)

gwendyloon - you've been ectplasmoido-hyperstitionally manifested!! [attaches cold compress]

peacepostulatorpiet - ??? (as usual)

well gee nick. see, that's the difference between you & me on the etc.piet.etc-warfront. "gwendyloon" was a term of endearment.

hey that maya link got me thinking how arguelles is faring with his islam inspired prayer sessions these days .. . . His latest communiques don't mention it anymore, he's sunk back into a Buddhist stage again and stuck only one measly little quran quote in .. . anyway, .. .. . his ingeniously cosmic cube slicing (which has much to do with magic fair yet squareness) by way of full work out prayer session brought me to

The greatdreams.com gematrians following Blavatsky's making much of the 144 'circle of tone' 'circle of sound' 'circle of stone' each deliver .. . .well it's just 3 lines in a giant big number filled file really .. . . which is why all these CALCIFICULATIONS strike me as sterile and abstract (not to speak of obsessional; they can't even get a break in/during dreamtime!!!!!!). My aims oppose theirs; I'm looking for ways to deliver people from screen/calculoss/time bondage into filtering (tangible tidbits of time) with multifunctional net sieve type kintriptions (raglike wring wrappable steel powerful enough to squeeze and crunch rock to powder) but i am like a king of hearts getting more desperate as the just relatively local, but nevertheless (perhaps merely private but for that all the more inevitably) final hour strike approaches .. . ..

if you insist on wasting your time: www.greatdreams.com/sacred/144.htm

hey double weird!!! google offers a cite from my site which is very old but don't carry the archive name (and note the size)
... Tzolkin in C Major FINALIST IN TORU TAKEMITSU COMPOSITION AWARD 2002 ...
at fivedoves.org in a search for arguelles and martyrdom - findings of which I ...
members.tripod.com/poetpiet/logbriefer.htm - 144k

geez peacepostulatorpiet, i feel like such a failure. that there is silent and disapproving poetic displeasure of my clueless inabilities.

or. maybe it's just the qlippotic after-effects of catholic school & shiny-shoed boys.

or. paranoid delirium. yeah. that's it. paranoid delirium.

lets just call it autism at the rainbow nation
http://www.lawoftime.org/research/rinri/shift.html
As such, the Galactic Broadcasting Network - GBN - is the means for dialing up, receiving and transmitting telepathically. But you have to know how to use it.

Yikes!!!! spook me with a spoon!!!!

Everything occurs at precisely the right time. The Closing of the Cycle is the time of the disintegration of old structures and the radiative integration of new structures. But the new structures cannot be "incorporated" until the old ones have been dissolved. The twin circuits of the planetary manitou represent the new etheric energy circuits of the noospheric human. The AC actually represents the fourth-dimensional double, the CA the fourth-dimensionally activated third-dimensional body. That is why the Way of Conduct is actually the training of our higher AC 4-D self (soul, or holon) to take command of the lower CA 3-D self. During the 13 baktun historical cycle, this lower CA self was disconnected from the higher AC 4-D self, so instead of Cosmic Awareness it was CA, Civilizational Advance - the gross materialism that exponentially dominates the historical cycle. Now all of that is being corrected, and we are ready, at least in principle, to move into the stage of Cosmic Awareness.

By placing the higher archetypal collective self of the AC-CA Planetary Manitou in its own correct relationship, we are reorganizing ourselves according to the Law of Time and the synchronic order, reintegrating our 3-D into our 4-D self and vice versa. The higher self must be ready because the subtle vibrations of the higher, less dense universes and world systems are pressing into the noosphere and the whole self must be able to receive these impulses in order to further its evolution. By purifying the senses (abstaining from all intoxicants), attaining to a clear light, materially detached mind, and adopting to a simplified meatless diet in which all killing has been abandoned, we are preparing ourselves for the "divine descent." By learning and practicing the codes of time which illuminate the circuits of the Planetary Manitou we are actually evolving a new etheric body for ourselves.

In this regard, it is very helpful to study the twin circuits of the Planetary Manitou in their eight strand sequences, four per Manitou. Remember to think of the CA as having been folded out from the AC so that it is actually a mirror replica of the AC:

The 1st red (Way of the Tree AC) and the 4th light green (Way of the Transcendent Fourth CA) are perfect mirror pairs;
The 2nd light blue (Way of Conduct AC) and 3rd orange (Way of Wielding Power CA),are perfect mirror pairs.
The violet 8th (Way of the Galactic Octave AC) and the dark green 5th (Way of the Irresistible Fifth CA) are perfect mirror pairs.
The purple 7th (Way of the Telepath AC) and dark blue 6th (Way of the Galactic Octave CA) are perfect mirror pairs.

Think of the AC strand as "sponsoring" the corresponding CA strand. There is an interesting numerology to this pairing of the first and last codon numbers of the strands:

AC Red Way of Tree 1-8 = CA Light Green Transcendent Fourth 25 -32,
AC Light Blue Way of Conduct 9 -16 = CA Orange Way of Wielding power 17 -24
where first codon numbers 1 + 25 = 26, first set = 9 + 17 = 26, second set, while last codon numbers 8 + 32 = 40 of first set = 16 + 24 = 40 of second set
minimum number pairs = AC 26 + CA 26 = 52 (13 x 4)
maximum numbers , AC 40 + CA 40 = 80 (20 x 4) Note the two factors, 13, 20 = 13:20.
Now look at the next two sets and see the same kind of complementarity:

AC Violet Way of Galactic Octave 57-64 = CA Dark Green Way of Irresistible Fifth 33-40
AC Purple Way of the Telepath 49-56 = Indigo Way of Dynamic Construction 41-48
Where first codon numbers 57 + 33 = 90 of first set = 49 + 41 = 90 of second set, while last codon numbers 64 + 40 = 104 of first set = 56 + 48 = 104 of second set
minimum number pairs AC 90 + CA 90 = 180 (20 x 9)
maximum number pairs, AC 104 + CA 104 = 208 (13 x16) 13, 20 factors again = 13:20

Sum of both sets of minimum number pairs = 52 (4 x 13) + 180 = 232 (29 x 8)
Sum of both sets of maximum number pairs 80 + 208 (13 x16) = 288 = 144 x 2
Total sum numbers 232 + 288 = 520 = 260 x 2

"On that day, we will fold the heaven, just like the folding of a book. Just as we initiated the first creation, we will repeat it. This is our promise; we will certainly carry it out." Quran 21:104

Of interest are the numbers and their relation to the synchronic order. According to the Sixteen year Cube of the Law of the 20 Tablets of the Law of Time, the Dreamspell Genesis is coded one kin per Moon. This is the eighth year, so we are completing the eighth or Human Wavespell, Kin 92-104. This means that the thirteenth or Cosmic Moon of this year will be Moon Code Kin 104, Yellow Cosmic Seed. This will be the last Moon of the AC Planetary Manitou. Following the Day out of Time, 12 Night, will be the first day of the new year, also Kin 104, the opening day of the Yellow Cosmic Seed year, and the beginning of the CA Planetary Manitou. The AC will be folded like one part of a book, and the CA will be folded out, like the next part of the book. 104 repeated is a sign that the first creation is being concluded and the Second creation is being initiated.

That means this Day out of Time, 12 Night, 2005, will be a day of most profound significance, one in which the opportunity for a telepathic regeneration of the spirit and of our creative potential will be fully available. On the Day Out of Time the completion of the first Bolontiku, Single Luminous White "A", Guardian of the Original 144,000, in synchronization with the completion of the AC Planetary Manitou, means that the etheric structure of the Bolontiku also participates in that of the Planetary Manitou.

scare me with a PANscan too

"I know this is the 'path beyond technology', but the paradox is that sometimes to get beyond technology, we have to use it."

.. . .my thoughts exactly
. .. even though it's that execrable proselyte Mark in Avalon saying so.

yeah.

http://www.cyberaxis.net/assets/imgs/northanger/djed.gif

At the Ring's mid point, you hit the Oracle trip switch. On the morning of Resonant Moon 15, your crown has become your root and your root has become your crown - the three root chakras have traded places with the three crown chakras. But your heart chakra remains constant. You are being transformed into your True Self. The Ring oracle which codes the Day out of Time takes the crown. The last shall be first, the lowest shall be raised to the highest. That which crowned the affair of the Ring when the orbit was initiated now becomes the root. The high mountains are made level. The water drains back into the Earth. The Bolontiku, Lord of the Ring, becomes equalized in itself. Heaven descends to Earth, Earth ascends to Heaven. The crystal core of Earth is the crown upon the noosphere by which the Bolontiku-Lord of the Ring becomes a living Fifth Force guardian of V.24.3. Seven Lords of the Ring, Seven Fifth Force Guardians of the Earth. To awaken one Lord of the Ring, is to awaken its circuit within yourself. Time recycles your soul, as your mind is recycled by the Lords of the Ring.

http://www.panmodern.com/epoem.html

"I know this is the 'path beyond technology', but the paradox is that sometimes to get beyond technology, we have to use it."

where did that come from?

fivedoves.com, yeah (seen this before - biblewheel.com - shades of jacobs wheel --
http://www.fortunecity.com/roswell/leadbeater/0/231gatesmain.htm)

people are seeing the same patterns. (reminds me of close encounter of the third kind) ((we're infected!!))

where did that come from? -- you forgot to read the next line, . .. best forgotten really; unpleasant experience in belgium, at least as far as Mark the calendar pusher had a hand in it. He was projecting huuuuuuuuuge distribution numbers. but they would have overshot the required 144.000 and we have to get it rite don't we?

your lord of the rings table has the colours right (can't say that for the likes of siblings of yours like Dolf leendert boek though he actively and openly gay apparantly) but it don't go for any tolkien at all!!!!! Reason???

HAAAH that google .. .eh turbulence has disappeared again ..

instead (and I mean replacing altogether) we have this (at the top even): Dread, Walking.: quranumerics, randomness and hazard
... to take very kindly to the 19 quran code and proceeded to ... Arguelles put something
new up again too (he is trying ... Fuck you Jose and your Quran idolatry even more ...
blog.urbanomic.com/dread/ archives/2005/01/socioeconumeric.html -

.which reminds me, a post of mine here was bouncing due to 'questionable content' (google cited) a while ago, so I had to tweak the word a bit . .. then, a little later I saw Nick mentioning google and figured the ban had been lifted the veil raised the dust reduced the sun had been shining .. .. .

Reason??? - ??? why i did it?
(ok on the colors. lol, thanku)

144 = 72 Goëtia + 72 ShemhaMephoresh
(dna. cns. better get that right. or else you create a monster. double-zodiac means 6 signs in / 6 sign out. connectors at: RED TRIANGLE LEO 15°-20°, SAG 15°-20°, ARI 15°-20° + BLUE TRIANGLE GEM 15°-20°, AQU 15°-20°, LIB 15°-20°)

1+4+4=9

AQ 144 = THE RING = ANOMALY

GON1 144 = The Field of Operation in which the Universe Can Manifest

AQ 960 = The Field of Operation in which the Universe Can Manifest

oops, that hit (for 'arguelles quran code tzolkin') is no improvement at all when it comes to my part in it: all told, one mother of a scalding scold, only 2 months ago but reading it back makes me feel old

http://www.rgrace.org/ - whoa

http://www.photon.cc/pipermail/telektonon/2001-September/000008.html

Think about these things. In the Dreamspell Book of Kin who is the speaker? Who is the “I” that speaks? “I perfect in order to equalize/producing opportunity/ I seal the store of death with the planetary tone of manifestation/ I am guided by the power of timelessness” Who is this “I”?It is the fourth dimensional “I” of the autonomous anonymous universal collective mind of the galactic brain, and not the “I“ presumed upon by the egoic individual being.

the calendar is not an "outie" - it is an "innie"

imho, the calendar is not an "outie" - it is an "innie"

lol, hehe

doesn't "IMHO" fail e-prime?

only those who haven't evolved beyond the painterly 'alltogether' perspective of crayon boxic, perfectly fantastic compile ups and crosscultural panorama like (wonderful arguelles quote at the dread link) suffer the illusion of being realistic rather than from monolithimania

contrast with a good quote from the (nevertheless equally unsuccesful) community intended group:

"Well, I guess I'm a bit more radical than that. As with any seed, it starts out as a protective bubble. But when conditions are favorable it germinates.
Given time and proper inputs, a Redwood forest can begin to change first the microclimate and eventually, the climate of an entire region. We've got to be thinking long term, not just about what might make our lives better. How can we explain what we're doing to the middle-class suburbanites on whose land the food will need to be grown when the oil runs out?"

you didn't know robert grace yet??????

I almost told you about him yesterday

I am expecting a long silence now .. .and I'll go eat something .. . if only I was a cyberaxis ringlord, I wouldn't need to .. . I'd be fed current constantly and steadily .. . or be printed to hang on a wall prettily with all my buddies for a while . . .all to gather father and lather .. .bother the mother no more.

http://members.lycos.nl/vadercats/jan04.htm

My idea of speeding this up is for each person to take a square noteslips with sticky edge and put it on the centrally suspended icosaface carrying his seal; of course, since Kernel chucked me from the board and I am not about to join the msn group PAN-Europeweb yall have to come and read this here.

http://members.lycos.nl/vadercats/jan04.htm

keyword calls and cues can kindle consensus?
This disregard for grammar often leads to more confusion than it tries to avoid. The reinvention of divination tools to count and account for now as ever ubiquitous and relentless change such as ccm is such a case in question. Their categorical compartmentalization cuts conversation short alright, presumably to leave more time for action (the selfsufficient, native culture like community founding, permaculture practise, etcetera type) but if it is true that hundreds of thousands of folks take this calendar seriously they must still be getting their minds around it to such a timeswallowing extent that little is left for working on such recommendations, even though they come from the highest and highly apocalyptic levels of cultish movement authorities. -- Besides, what's the point if as always, meaning erodes, distinction swims, definition sways and boundaries crumble and blur? No lense stays static, take heart, no beginning is final, our task remains, eternally. Of the three small and strongly urging but stagnant movements I have made close study in the last 20 years the first remains my favorite; lemme do a rough inventory:

1) local/body/will ------------ replenish trace mineral content and interactivity worldwide since it is vital to all parts of the biosphere, beginning with foodstuffs. You just won't be gripping in a thrillingly healthy sense before you've gotten grip to this fact of life. Hint: equate time-rock-emit let splendidate piet demonstrate that splinter and fract acts allows information to enter formerly compact and that all blessing flows from there in fact.

2) regional/mind ----------- employ community currencies where appropriate (to execute provision of and cover of basic needs; Hint: equate time-emit - subject); a region with balanced gender relations will surely show them to be competitive with private ones and hold the latter in check).

3)global/spirit ----------- a synthesis of these two may well lead to sightsetting beyond our solar system but that won't be any easier than pulling of the frontforming with islam and hippydom as components such as Arguelles seems to be shooting for (he says: GOD = number (and particularly fond of the Quranic code's fetish fraction: 19); GOD = Galactic Ordering Dynamic - Tzolkin = it's all kin)

http://members.lycos.nl/vadercats/jan04.htm

HOUSE OF CARDS .. . . . . .. . . . . . 7. Bhille wanted to read about his cards so he learned how to read. One day he saw a newspaper headline that said: Plan, House of Cards. Bhille could not understand the plan for it was too complex for him. He was happy that the wise leaders based their work on the cards. He was inspired to record his own thoughts in a notebook. He wrote: Diamonds represent wealth. Spades, labor. Hearts, health. Clubs, freedom of assembly and speech. Diamonds are useless without spades, worthless without hearts, vulnerable without clubs. Defend property. Spades are enslaved without clubs, idled without diamonds, enfeebled without hearts. Protect wages. Clubs are powerless without hearts, immobilized without spades, hobbled without diamonds. Hold elections. Hearts are broken without diamonds, exposed without clubs, flabby without spades. Train doctors. Respect all cards regardless of size or color. Each one can bring victory. And this, I believe, is most important. Always play with a full deck.

i'm going to bed then.

"you didn't know robert grace yet??????"
nope, good link.

time for an on topic remark during the break in the storm .. . godda feed the hand that bits the bites;

the freedom to math is the freedom to contract (postulate, speculate but also to commit); see relation to compression earlier in thread.

the speed and excitement of rapids feeding the slow and slowly ballooning bulge of airbalgs (dutch word)

air in the downward travelling central(ly combined) closed compartments fanning out and open into outlier upward track ones fills them.

I already did an analogy between hanging a pivot / rope anchor up in the sky to replace a parachute at a time I was trying to figure out how to get ships upstreams a little faster than most manage in many stages of such legs of the journey.

It seems to ramify to the vertical/upward air in water circulation energy harvesting devices I fantasize about here and there.

Anchor on deeplake or ocean floor to stabilize bubble wagon trains might be unnecessary to prevent the whole thing from drifting into horizontal position cause the lower part has to be sturdiest/heaviest.

you are one hell of a brilliant gall, you hammer the diamonds out of my rubble pile in no time, no calendar needed, just your hoppering mind; I ask you to send me a picture of yourself, yes?

goodnight prelude to overturned and restarted ouverture I'm sure

fine example of contracts and maths gone ballistic:

March 10, 2005
‘Teachable Moments’
But who will teach the teachers?
by Victor Davis Hanson
National Review Magazine

It recently came to light that University of Colorado professor Ward Churchill had slandered some of the 9/11 victims as “Little Eichmanns,” who may well have deserved punishment for their participation in what went on “in the sterile sanctuary of the twin towers.”

VDH is all for status bestowing formality to remain uncolonized by reflexion (to speak with dread) far and coldly distant from content, let alone content opening kinsporeacism

hang on, I'll go find a quote which best exempli- and justifies my susps

I'm only half way through yet but this will have to do for now:

"So Summers touched the third rail of contemporary university life, by questioning one of the hallowed tenets of the victimization industry: Deliberate discrimination explains all inequality of result, precluding free discussion of other theories — and thus justifies compensatory collective benefaction."

OK, this proud selfmade stance emanates out of the macho go it alone doctrine the US demagogues like to hold up to public scrutiny . . . .in order to distract from the fact our bullies off the beat bashing billitants are utterly and collectively beholden to the world champs in victimology abuse. I mean, if zionism was originally conceived as a way to restore some of mankind's worst eco offenses, why don't we see Moses appleseeds instead of Vanunus?

I had occasion to note some google hypernomaly earlier today and here's another one:

search for 'musicphantoms' and google will show you . . .well, perhaps, it can change at a moment's notice as I discovered today (account in Hyperstitious-conversations.htm) 7 sites all of which are mine except a vinden.nl page with search terms libido fort and the hyperstition thread in which I happened to mention that word a while back. I find that incredibly hard to believe . .. . .

note there's been a url change>>>>>>>

is this you northanger?

this is a

he's about to bite the big cauliflower in the sky of course

climb that

more galactokins
http://www.podcollective.com/
http://www.stevee.com/

ps: soundofmind.com is putting on one of those stupendously boring bass beat shows tonite in sf

http://www.111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111.com/#

piet - from your feb05.htm page - link to infinite-energy.com:

A Dissident View of Relativity Theory
http://www.infinite-energy.com/iemagazine/issue59/adissidentview.html

No doubt the average citizen assumes that relativity theory is vital to our modern society. In truth it has almost no role to play, except in a few narrow branches of science. For example, the Apollo program to land a man on the moon was a complete success as a result of the physics of Sir Isaac Newton—relativity theory did not play a role. Einstein’s work on Brownian motion and the photoelectric effect was far more important than relativity.

This may come as a shock, but Einstein’s theory of relativity is not part of the design of nuclear weapons! As proof, here is an excerpt from The Los Alamos Primer: The First Lectures on How To Build an Atomic Bomb, "Section 2. Energy of Fission Process," page 7:

Somehow the popular notion took hold long ago that Einstein’s theory of relativity, in particular his famous equation E = mc2, plays some essential role in the theory of fission. Albert Einstein had a part in alerting the United States government to the possibility of building an atomic bomb, but his theory of relativity is not required in discussing fission. The theory of fission is what physicists call a nonrelativistic theory, meaning that relativistic effects are too small to affect the dynamics of the fission process significantly."

piet - "you are one hell of a brilliant gall, you hammer the diamonds out of my rubble pile in no time, no calendar needed, just your hoppering mind; I ask you to send me a picture of yourself, yes?"

rotflmao (thanku (no idea tho' on "hoppering mind"). i'll post up one of my baby pictures.

control freak - "is this you northanger?" - naw. think i'm more the icthyoid-type (see link below)........

hmm. nicholas as baphomet.

144 = NIKOLAS
156 = NICKOLAS
152 = NICCOLES = BAPHOMET = BLACK MAGIC = CHTHONIC = INCUBUS = LAMPBLACK = OEDIPUS = TENTACLE

it's official then. Niccoles is Baphomet!

hyperstitionally speaking, of course.

piet - can't figure out whether you're pithy, piercing, punning, phunning, phuming, phreaking or just plain nuts.

you're my kinda person.

all

http://www.newskinstudio.com/gallery.html

ichthyoid role modeling
Fungalinguistic
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if all activity obstructing and distracting from gardening (making sure all who want one get one for starters .. .or some skills and time first maybe) was illegal I'd be as guilty as all the rest of the hyperstitioners unless I pointed out I'd be most happy to make a name as pleach piet not shy to recruit. . .no sorry .. .confident volunteerw will show up for the next 3 generations in order to climax a pilot project.

ppppppppp = "all"
rotflmao

awesome gallery, btw (guy is goood)

more incitement to garden

I just paid a rare visit to lgf (the most popular zionazifriendly site around) and found subspinaliminal hints of what they are naziing (not seeing), to wit, a) refs to 'jelly fish'; b) this item title 'UN hits bottom, digs' with few comments, c) a little further down is one about mount St Helens with even fewer comments, only 40 (whereas the most recent item on Ward Churchill hits more regular levels, over 400)
http://ccforums.mechnex.net/index.php?act=ST&f=66&t=8372&st=0#entry117885
Boom!! ----- Could be Steam, could be something more....

more incitement to garden

I just paid a rare visit to lgf (the most popular zionazifriendly site around) and found subspinaliminal hints of what they are naziing (not seeing), to wit, a) refs to 'jelly fish'; b) this item title 'UN hits bottom, digs' with few comments, c) a little further down is one about mount St Helens with even fewer comments, only 40 (whereas the most recent item on Ward Churchill hits more regular levels, over 400)
http://ccforums.mechnex.net/index.php?act=ST&f=66&t=8372&st=0#entry117885
Boom!! ----- Could be Steam, could be something more....

wanna go see some flower arrangements. They punctuate rants by poster's partner, a person who intends them (the long rants) to make clear, obvious, plain and understandable that he packs a gun .. . and keeps blowing comments like mine off his blog

Heh. I used to draw colts ceaselessly when I was about 10 or 11.

UN hits bottom
http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/index.php?act=ST&f=1&t=11518

what are you going on about Ward Churchill. where's the link?

AQ 257 = WARD CHURCHILL = HUGH OF THE BORG

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=15002_UN_Hits_Bottom_Digs&only=yes 200 comments

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=14996_Photos_of_Mt._St._Helens&only=yes 40 comments

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=15033_Churchill_Accused_of_Plagiarism_Buyout_Near#comments 456 comments

lots of the latest links on Ward Churchill (hugh???) end up here:

what does mt st helens have to do with ward churchill?

well, lgf is livid about all things weenywankwhimpily unmacho and uncleverly honest .. . . so they hate indymedia to the extent it answers above description and they hate Ward for the same reason plus they can't get very excited about mt st helens

items on both (plus the one on the UN) seen furtively on the lgf front page this morning.

unfortunately, Ward has nothing with dust either as far as I know; if he had studied all the responses I went to the trouble of making to indymedians who brought the 'diversity of tactics' topic up to defend and roundaboutly propose protest violence and such between seattle and genua -- by the way, a 6 hour long italian movie ('beautiful youth' or some such title, covering decades for various people) beautifully shows how the 68 unrest prefigured a protesters death in last mentioned city -- he would at least be somewhat familiar with real alternatives to his provocately succesful but of course, like they all do, slightly backfiring polarizations, a very much better one than the sell out/buy out standoff 'obey the law' he intones.

hmmm

correction:

-- he would at least be somewhat familiar with real alternatives to his provocatively successful but of course, but, like they all do, slightly backfiring polarizations (holding up a tiny little mirror to big bully brother doesn't give you enough cover either way, the target don't really see, much less recognize sordidity nor does it prevent target (over)looking right past it, see who is trying to hold it up and target liddul sibling in turn); would be nice to say something truly radiant along these lines now that he's got everybody's attention instead of the somewhat lame standoff tonedown backpeddle sell and buy out invitation 'obey the law' he intones.

piet. reading up on your churchill obsession to determine what said exactly (and when) & researching eichmann. much to my surprise...

EICHMANN = YILDUN

ADOLF EICHMANN = [WOMAN=OTHER]

additionally, "obsess" shares same root as "nick" meaning "shallow notch, cut, or indentation on an edge or a surface". my father described success as "a notch on the belt" (as in winning the gunfight at the ok corral). going to show that when one follows an obsession to its natural conclusion it is a NOTCH on the belt.

while WC's heart was in the right place (i'm gathering from your comments) his strategy / tactics questionable. certainly american public needs to know the effects of its foreign & domestic policies - this approach probably too destructive when cognitive dissonance is perhaps the first response. (must point out though: decision to not address slavery in 1776 ((all men created equal yadda yadda)) with complete awareness by founding daddies it would come back to bite everyone in butt - frederick douglass, if not mistaken, said american civil war issue = state sovereignty).

while WC's presentation a little dicey - wasn't original piece written right after 911? so why the explosion now?

hyperstitional minds wanna know.

I just answered Dianna's answer:
www.pirateballerina.com/blog/entry.php?id=36

dutch radio report this morn: modern slavery in holland now; illegal migrant labour earning as much as 2 euro an hour; they are recruited from assorted central stations.

Why now?

Michael Albert's weird take:

ZMag publisher on Ward: Why Ward Churchill? I think Ward would probably say it is because what he is doing is very effective. Ward may even see the attacks on his essay as evidence that the essay had great dissident merit. I think Ward would be wrong in that. Ward is being attacked not because he is the strongest possible target, but because he is one of the weakest possible targets. His essay is featured not because it was seriously threatening, but because it is easily ridiculed. Ward provided right wingers fodder they could manipulatively use. The right wingers are hoping that Ward has sufficiently irritated those who would otherwise defend him so that he is left without defenders. We can't allow that. The right is a long way from going after stronger targets. Everyone on the left has to be sure no targets they do go after are vulnerable. 

Piet: Not my feelings or estimates at all Albert; I guess it's no wonder we don't read each other!!!! ---

Richard Oxman doesn't like Albert's take either and intersperses it with comment IN CAPS (even).

ps: I've just made a Meg worth of flat text into a 'prfr' (peculiarly formated 'read' .. which I stopped presenting to the public years ago due to complaints from the indyans and it does cost time to make them) on the subject (only a fraction of all the stuff I looked at, downloaded and looked at a little better) .. . . . looks like I'll have a chance to read it next week too.

Richard Oxman: Ringing in 1984 with Ward Churchill and Derrick Jensen
... By RICHARD OXMAN. Ward Churchill, University of Colorado at Boulder professor,
... Richard Oxman, who holds the world's record for being dismissed ...
www.counterpunch.org/oxman02022005.html - 87k - 11 maart 2005 - >>>>> clickable

yup. here's the original piece...
http://www.darknightpress.org/index.php?i=news&c=recent&view=9&long=1

Michael Albert’s Head Downer: No Alberich’s Cloak for Churchill, Please
http://www.selvesandothers.org/article8532.html

as you may have surmised without visiting that link, it stems from the second of feb (not sure how or why google places dates on some items and why when it does, those are invariable recent; perhaps cause the sidebars are constantly added to and up to date even if the article isn't.

ps: opera???? What is that animated initial O supposed to conjure? active vagina? condom that is extremely 'sensitivity' permeable, look it blows and ripples in the slightest breeze, even when still rolled up. What?
Curious Subhyperoids want to knowe.

piet. you know this bizness better than me.

did churchill make any moves on the original piece that made it come back up to position it for attack? or did this come from another direction? if latter, where?

rephrase: what is ground zero for churchill brouhaha.

curious subhyperoids = thank you for enriching the vocabulary.

OPERA = ZERO
opera is italian for "work, service" from the root OP "to work, produce in abundance" - derivatives include maneuver, manure, operate, operose, cooperate, inure, officinal, stover, omnibus, omnium-gatherum (a hodgepodge), optimum, copious, copy, opulent, and cornucopia (co-, collective and intensive prefix; see kom).

interestingly, ADOLF EICHMANN = ACTIVE VAGINA

phunnily, ROLLED-UP CONDOM = NUCLEOTIDES G-A-T-C (rotflmao)

It's probably elusiveness of, and consequent inability to catch real culprits. This makes the more and more irritated and violent neoconians and co prepared to look for substitute culprits (scapegoats) more than anything. Analogous to complaints about and chokeholds on 'islam' while most islamists steer clear away from the more violent passages of the Quran of course. Christians read selectively too, and so do I for that matter; do have some skills donai? Thanks for noticing.

"rephrase: what is ground zero for churchill brouhaha." --- Churchill is an assault on the conscience of Amerika; he takes the stinging ring of collapsing symbol supreme, the phallic forepost of continent covering American desert, and translates it into close to the ground phallogolemic legalese.

I meant Oprano of course you silly; what did you think opera referred to?

"Thanks for noticing"

you're a cute flinke, plinke.

111 = FLINKE = RADICAL
121 = PLINKE = FAIR FACE
232 = SEVEN STARS

http://oprano.com/msgboard/

you said opera! opera.com.

indeed you guessed it twinkle twinkle whittle star

actually the counterpunch pages do not have up-to-dated sidebars so I'm mystified as to why google slaps a date on

gematric rephrasing.

Churchill is an assault on the TORTURE of Amerika; he takes the DEEP ESCALATION of collapsing DECIMAL REDUCTION, the SHARED PERIPHERY of BLOOD SWEAT AND TEARS American BACKBONE, and translates it into THE FINAL EXPANSION of the GREAT CULTURAL DIVIDE.

OPRANO = FASCISM = ANARCHY = CTHONIA

I know I said opera, don't deny it but i didn't say you should suspect meaning deep enough in every at first incomprehensible word I say to justify hoppering it into the numogrammeritester, ride and rive it for what it's worth and see if there's anything left that holds up well enough to add to arsenal for future babblebattles. You are distracted from gardening and bubbles enough as it is.

twinkle twinkle whittle star = polyalphabetic substitution = elevated energetic particle flux

"You are distracted from gardening and bubbles enough as it is."

what gardening?
what bubbles?
(it's YOU that's distracting me. i have new rock&roll asteroids to post up)

is 'great cultural divide' equivalent to global warming (preluding ice age) making the waters heat up and swell? or are you referring to wasteland rather than buffering border lands between peoples polite enough to leave wide swath's of everbeingsland between their borders (leaving the latter wide enough apart for it, defusing fronts altogether).

everbeingsland

maybe we should instigate lbo rule: three posts a day max.

that way we don't run up a, at least quantitatively, diminishing return (increasing baggage) problem (hall of maat forum has 180K files for sample messages in long threads (due to links to all the others in each message) though I think registered users can view the whole thread at once.

sheesh, I wouldn't dare come between you and your ring of protective gauntletlike missiles; you are too well embedded and captured for puny peters like me.

everybeingsland rather than and/or as form of nomansland

three posts a day max?!

maybe i should throw away my pc and turn into hakim bey. and read hegel. and bad boy badiou. give up the biglist.

Richard Oxman speaks with franz kafka
http://www.couplescompany.com/Features/Politics/PoliticalChips/SaltVinegar/KAFKAESQUE.htm

over 150 messages in a thread ostensibly about math, econ, and intelligence without me mentioning Ulrich von Beckerath once yet???????

Pfui, I had me scared and wondering if there was something wrong wimme already.

I can't wait for the chance to swap the pc for 20 acres and a mule; my legs are getting impatient, they weren't built to sit still and are retaining moisture in silent protest but 'normally' (when I'm not expecting 'ziel en zaligheid' from screenwork) quite athletic .. . .. .reminds me of the peddling journalist who built keyboards into his hitec contraption

232 = SEVEN STARS = VON BECKERATH
(why do i bother when everyone makes fun of me)
:(

The Big Eichmanns/Wanted: Martyrs for the Movement
Sunday 6th February 2005,
http://www.selvesandothers.org/article8291.html (Oxman)

http://www.selvesandothers.org/article8588.html Lowering the Boom on Jewish Hollywood and a Robert Jensen Notion

stuff I'm funneling into my own hopper (printcue) cause I've got a shrewd notion this man hasn't a very useful one when it comes to dust even though he lives near Donald Weaver my pal (and co-author/facilitator/finacier of 'survival of civilization' by John Hamaker on ice age cycles and one regularly recurrent factor/cause for them; entirely analogous and parallel, not to say integral to understanding Ulrich von Beckerath x me)

i like oxford.

"Doing one's work means being the ultimate outsider at times."

i mean, oxman.

"premature boldness plays right into the hands of those who can now be blatant with their reactionary measures."

"...Kafka was able to write "There is no need for you to leave the house. Stay at your table and listen, just wait. Don't even wait, be completely quiet and alone. The world will offer itself to you to be unmasked; it can't do otherwise; in raptures it will writhe before you." And he wasn't talking about anything that had anything to do with the Internet."

ok. time to get back to work and surf the stars.

http://www.selvesandothers.org/article8291.html
pandas. rotflmao.

but I want you to bother and for motherings ache come up with the reasons why

1) idiot savants (Arguelles, Boek, Mulcahy, Szabo, etcetera) go for the type of carpet/rug knottage / couting / matrix / calendarizing / timing that seems completely derailed, unhinged and deranged (an amusing distraction at best) to (the majority of) ordinary (encrustedly gregorian grind and beatkeepery committed) folks

2) why 'secret symbols of the ancients' digitizing pioneers like 7thunders.com man charm and strike me as providing valuable service and why the diagonal in his spread reminds me of the earth's tilt and the 19 diagonal in the Tzolkin but I can't quite get it all in focus.

3) why everybody is so glitched if not clinched when it comes to reconciling the share of stuff we do indeed have in common (looking up and out related) with terrestrial ones that divide us.

Trace minerals are myriadly multiple forms of macro in/as micro (in/down) that everybody, by contrast to planets and asteroids CAN actually get a grip on and not only navigate amongst but with the aid of (better than one does automatically already anyway .. . I miss the spirit of abundance that emanated from the green/organic movement, partly cause I stopped travelling but it is also defeated, completely snowed under (intimated and made irrelevant, or at least and at best, less urgent in times of unfriendly types of trouble, falling debris and toxic dust clouds).

"1) idiot savants (Arguelles, Boek, Mulcahy, Szabo, etcetera) go for the type of carpet/rug knottage / couting / matrix / calendarizing / timing that seems completely derailed, unhinged and deranged (an amusing distraction at best) to (the majority of) ordinary (encrustedly gregorian grind and beatkeepery committed) folks"

good question. ask yourself why the calendar was important to Bede, John Dee and others. or in another sense: christianity (easter), islam (crescent moon sighting), mayan (mckenna), etc.

there's a lot of history (mostly political, some prophetic) behind calendar making.

descendant of boulders, you reference boulder properly and do not plagiarize 'm (the assault on Ward has watered down to that ((they see, through my assist, his dust potential)) his attackers are just carrying water like good little previvalinjuns) this makes u bolder

still on #1. assuming you include me in this list of idiot savants: i see it as an "end of the world" activity (whatever that means). have to admit, on the 911 reaction spectrum i'm close to churchill. only saw 10 seconds of tv & immediately "knew" what was occurring. next day i started working on the grid (calendar).

"2) why 'secret symbols of the ancients' digitizing pioneers like 7thunders.com man charm and strike me as providing valuable service and why the diagonal in his spread reminds me of the earth's tilt and the 19 diagonal in the Tzolkin but I can't quite get it all in focus."

hmmm. give me a link on the 19 diagonal so i can look at it (and your response is probably correct - exactly what part of it can't you get into focus?)

you remember that "play with a full deck" quote of yours"? some of us in the deck do calendars. just guessing: each calendar is for a specific group of people ??

"3) why everybody is so glitched if not clinched when it comes to reconciling the share of stuff we do indeed have in common (looking up and out related) with terrestrial ones that divide us."

this bothers me too. but, maybe we should spin this a different way. rephrase the question. reframe the situation. see the opportunity.

"idiot savants: i see it as an "end of the world" activity (whatever that means)." ----- yeah, that's just it innit? they have it all ass backward or, if you will, halfway right (just occured to me): end of macro world is time freed up for freeing up micro/world/time; the old and indeed ancient Wendell Berry type thought, except that for a man in his position (a white in a rightfully red one's) sounds sanctimonious; he had a personal conversion but not a more collectively lineage one ... .yet

"Laugh. Laughter is immeasurable. Be joyous though you have considered all the facts." -- Wendell Berry

"end of macro world is time freed up for freeing up micro/world/time" - totally agree. WB is described as a meditating walker (like Whitman; solvitur ambulando (solved by walking)). what i'm experiencing is the sense of walking in the dark, no road. where each micro-brick shows up just in time to step on. hodology is the study of pathways. i have to trust that stepping off the known road leads me to a pathway.

very funny way to live.

http://eserver.org/thoreau/walden18.html

I learned this, at least, by my experiment: that if one advances confidently in the direction of his dreams, and endeavors to live the life which he has imagined, he will meet with a success unexpected in common hours. He will put some things behind, will pass an invisible boundary; new, universal, and more liberal laws will begin to establish themselves around and within him; or the old laws be expanded, and interpreted in his favor in a more liberal sense, and he will live with the license of a higher order of beings. In proportion as he simplifies his life, the laws of the universe will appear less complex, and solitude will not be solitude, nor poverty poverty, nor weakness weakness. If you have built castles in the air, your work need not be lost; that is where they should be. Now put the foundations under them.

7p. you're just another thoreau, another johnny appleseed. walking across the country telling people to break up rocks & not disturb the swans.

you're part of the pack. and i have ... learned this, at least, by my experiment: play with a full deck.

can't remember if I found it and the postfall 'mundane spread' (the jumbled version; hence displacement complications not only involved in BSE but the heavens themselves GOOD GRIEF) when looking for it on the net or not (but esoteric book stores sometimes have this big bleu books with the ace of spades on front 'ssota'); my question about it's relation to tzolkin diagonal (still looking; this link at bottom is close) posed in both directions didn't yield anything but my description should be googleable.

trust only god's own signposts . . ..ever see that movie 'the sorceress'???

Set in france, about inquisition bothering herbologizers

Significance of the Number Nineteen
http://www.vortexmaps.com/htmla/nineten.php
"Nineteen squared equals 361, one degree more than a full circle."

that sounds familiar. my last working "gate" was 361. when i tried to fix it, got it wrong - gate was 361 AGAIN when i realized i got the fix wrong. still trying to find that diagonal.

((beginning to think of this as the Close Encounters of the Third Kind syndrome))

no, haven't seen the sorceress. but i think reza talks about it here:

http://hyperstition.abstractdynamics.org/archives/004438.html

and then i moved the start date on the calendar & i got totally confused about what to do next. that made me realize: something's about to happen.

By the way, the thoreau you posted is perfect relicrappy criptoe for breaking rocks and powdering composts and more short order droppings in order to leafer leave for latur leverage (take that mister cohen!!!).

And the Kafka quote brings memories of 'see the north wind rise' or 'seven days in new crete' (love story I would have much rather seen made into a movie than I Claudius - wooda been less diabolically urban; lifting people of the ground at the expense of having and owning a ground 'fired' floor is a deadly sin)

do you mean this?
http://www.13moon.com/natcal-tzolkinimage.htm

http://www.geo(.)cities.com/coramwicca/court/courtintro.html

I pause with razor poised, scowling derision
At the mirrored man whose beard needs my attention,
And once more ask him why
He still stands ready, with a boy’s presumption,
To court the queen in her high silk pavilion.

can't find that pic anymore
but this is sortof a jackpot if you consider folks who are, other than kids, most likely to understand the rockdust issue yet do zip about it such.
http://london.tribe.net/tribe/e680aa59-cfd2-4242-bac0-774915e29805?r=10411

a quick description will have to do for now (ain't it bedtime yet)

vertical rows of 20 starting at the top and repeated 13 times is tzolkin

going diagonally from bottom to next number up and left leaves a difference of 19 for every possible step; of course during all the sacred stepping things go in spirals and jump to harmonically resonant points all around the globe but there is a linear live through also.

the regular playing deck spread on a grid of 12 x 31 making sure each diagonal (parallel ones, only one way too) gets only one kind of card (thus one occurence in the corner 2 in the next line down, etcetera allows you to cover 365 days with 52 cards easy.

part of Haeckel's collection I guess (16 zipped Mb someplace)

a scottish band of rune and rainbow smartists

reminds me of the jacob wheel spinnery

scotlightnet.tribe.net picture gallery (41 pieces)

check the RNA Mandala

can't figure out what you mean here.
http://london.tribe.net/tribe/e680aa59-cfd2-4242-bac0-774915e29805?r=10411

been to kilwinning site. question is, what does all this mean. eh?

RNA: yup. somebody else did something like that. not as nice. let me go get a link.

chris lofting
http://members.austarmetro.com.au/~lofting/myweb/

Hegel : How We Think Determines What We Think
http://members.austarmetro.com.au/~lofting/myweb/howthink.html

A State, as such, despite any attempt to generalise, to abstract the term, is still something WITHIN the realm of the species and as such Hegel's words can appear 'extreme' at times (gets into the whole concept of 'warrior states' etc etc) but his texts can 'resonate' with some in that they intuitively pick-up the 'true' context in which the writtings seem more 'comfortable', BUT there are many who cannot pick this up and as such strongly oppose/write off Hegel. When we take Hegel's prose 'as is' other than change ONE word so the prose takes on a different colouring that is more 'acceptable'. The word change is of 'State' to 'Species'. Some examples, taken from Hegel's Philosophy of Right (further comments after the examples):

tortuga board (now defunct) question:

solar year and mundane spread (with ordinary card deck) yields diagonal constant too; namely the same card (to make 52 fill out a whole year); the shortes diagonal is the rarest (birth)card/quality and the longest the most common; simple and elegant.

I just sent this to http://www.7thunders.com to ask his opinion on how 'his' spreads and the 7X4X13 thing compare

Subject: regarding your work in relation to that of Jose Arguelles who's work can be viewed via http://www.tortuga.com

hi, I am interested in trying to harmonize/find common ground between your
system (which i have tested extensively and intensily during years of
travelling) on the one hand and the 13:20 grid Jose Arguelles explains
everything including hiroshima, the inauguration and downfall of the WTC
towers, even the code encrypted in the quran unbeknownst to the receiver
Mohammed.

His work has generated quite a following some of which I have recently mapped
(my first acquaintance dates from Glastonbury during his grand harmonic
convergence). All mentioned dates have a signature/stamp ruling my birthglyph
(2nd of june 1858 (some kind of a blue eagle) curious enough.

Here's your change to see what I'm on about (if you haven't caught onto it
already . . actually I meant to ask you why you think the diagonal in his grid
is so important and constant .. .which 'yours' happens to be also . ..
questions questions. .. .)

http://members.lycos.nl/vadercats/june2.htm

ps:
http://members.lycos.nl/vadercats/june3.htm has an answer from Robert Camp but the timewavezero (Mckenna) folk didn't think this was worth answering; I hope someone here can.

Another thing I am curious about is why Arguelles and you guys don't really engage in a little mundane analysis in the sense of predicting how prominents (like Bush and Berlusconi say), the all too often all too powerful interact?

That is the reward for correct timing after all: insight on psychic levels and influence from perfectly ripened foodstuffs.

though I could now ask the question at all these many tribe groups again I am not about to join a bill gates outfit (bad enough I work windows at this location).

central axis has colours of ... ..

over at pirateballerina somewan thinks me worth two lines of her time:

Dianna:

If you’d been to this idiot’s website, you’d already know he makes as much sense as the Unabomber. GAZE.
jwpaine (email) - 13 March '05 - 06:53

wow, that's the site owner!!!!! A great honour to be left up by a man who thinks so little of me; perhaps he has plans to make a spectacle of me; we can enact the famous Rops painting, you crucified, Ward your angel, I your devil and mr paining as saint anthony pulling his hair out.

ran into lofting, backed off and took a pass

http://www.pirateballerina.com/blog/entry.php?id=36

DIANNA: piet, if I understand you properly, which I’m not sure I do, you’re saying that it’s OK for Churchill to fabricate an historical incident, distort Russell Thornton’s work, and lie about what the sources he himself cited say, so long as he’s opposing capitalism and adding to the victimization narative?

JWPAINE: If you’d been to this idiot’s website, you’d already know he makes as much sense as the Unabomber. GAZE.

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intro to "unabomber manifesto"
http://wikisource.org/wiki/Industrial_Society_and_Its_Future

The Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race. They have greatly increased the life-expectancy of those of us who live in "advanced" countries, but they have destabilized society, have made life unfulfilling, have subjected human beings to indignities, have led to widespread psychological suffering (in the Third World to physical suffering as well) and have inflicted severe damage on the natural world. The continued development of technology will worsen the situation. It will certainly subject human beings to greater indignities and inflict greater damage on the natural world, it will probably lead to greater social disruption and psychological suffering, and it may lead to increased physical suffering even in "advanced" countries.

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piet, what do seek to gain by this type of online interaction?

does hakim bey have a clue? do we all need to turn off our pcs?

rotflmao. "ran into lofting, backed off and took a pass" - yes, very densely packed stuff (look who's talking)

lookin for gardenin mates is all

oh oh, I lied, I don't really know ellen ten damme (though I have read a column she did years back); she was on tv last night - late edition news program even!!!!!! A concession to the party timers, those who will hear they were showcased while living it up (shit! isn't their a middle way between specializing in war OR sex????)

posted at pirateballerina (found replacement for you since you are too busy):

wow, that’s the site owner!!!!! A great honour to be left up by a man who thinks so little of me .. .or perhaps I better watch out, he might wanna dishonour and have plans to make a spectacle of me; hey, tell you what, we can enact the famous Rops painting, I have some friends (perhaps Ellen ten Damme would like to join; she just lost the qualifier for german entry to the eurovision song festi (though she is dutch) with a raging song that translates (loosely: ‘blew you up’ – plattgefickt is about fucking the lust to make war and call THAT art right out of men—Imagine, she’d be crucified, Ward her angel, I her devil and you could play saint anthony pulling his hair out. Could be cathartic no?
Ain’t that a beautiful proposition to someone who can’t even characterized my site sufficiently enough to be called fair though? That’s in return for keeping me up her bud.
Ps: i am not only an idiot, I even collect links to them, idiot savants to be exact and though you are an idiot too for calling my dustcloud interpretation skills on a par with those evinced by the UnaBomber, those that cause clouds of usually toxic dust by way of bombs (which I emphatically denounce, no matter what denomination, flavor, target and/or noble cause, the result is ALWAYS justifiable outrage; it’s just not a remedy like fresh dust properly selected, dosed and applied is; subtle, slow and very sustainable, go look at evolution buddy and be careful you don’t plagiarize or insult it, you’d be spiting your own face)

she walks around on her hands and all the sweat, even her boobies are undoubtedly genuine; comes off quite convincingly rompable

shame she lost to a girl that looks lots less german; a black girl does the dutch entry this year.

i think i'm learning dutch by osmosis.

www.ellentendammemusic.com

what's a black girl doing in dutch-land?

ok. time for bed.

thanks for the chat piet.

nity nite, I was distracted by the malfunctional printer but was gonna say something like:

.. . they hang till we they get traded in for equally displaced white folk in africa .. . or some such harsh or hopeful (depending on your views) pronouncement

my pleasure .. . thank you; we should find a chat channel someday .. .

i'm on yahoo messenger: axisnorthanger, we can chat there.

HEEEYYYY, I've come to a grand conclusion . ...

drumroll
. . . ..
I am a traceless tracist

tracelessly embedded as free animals and (mineral) tracist as a true human must be as far as I understand one can be(come) ONE, not only embedded but embedding too!!

it's a googlewhack I bet, .. . yup .. .go claim me.

Hmmm

#4457-VAN GOGH {15Sc56} [ZUBENELGENUBI, South Chelae : Price of the Deficient] • Compass Rose: SE by E • SACRAL CHAKRA {Svadisthana} • DISTANCE: 134º FROM YILDUN @ PATH 10: RESPLENDENT INTELLIGENCE–The TENTH (Original #10) Path is MALKUTH (Kingdom) = X The Decad (Dixes) :: EON PHASE: 13 (Phase Arc 120º ~ Waxing Trine) : Stimulation, Determined Activity, Developing, Kernel Issues • 31-STAR PRIME SERIES: [12]-[59]-[70] :: PRIME NUMBERS: [37]-[277]-[349] -- [[ TX PRIME [012] 037 = ((:)::) ]] #18-DJYNXX [SCORPIO 12º–SCORPIO 19º] ~ ZONE 6::3 Child Stealer: Syzygetic Xenodemon of Time-Lapse; Feeds and Prowls Warp-Current; Ciphers Gt-36; Abstract cyclones, dust spirals (nomad war-machine).

#3532-TRACIE {13Cp26} [VEGA] • Compass Rose: S by W • 3RD EYE CHAKRA {Anja} • DISTANCE: 192º FROM YILDUN @ PATH 7: OCCULT INTELLIGENCE–The SEVENTH (Original #7) Path is NETZACH (Victory) = VII The Heptad (Septs) :: EON PHASE: 19 (Phase Arc 180º ~ Opposition) : Repolarization, Universal Sphere, Line of Awareness, Tensile Power • 31-STAR PRIME SERIES: [18]-[34]-[89] :: PRIME NUMBERS: [61]-[139]-[461] -- [[ TX PRIME [018] 061 = ((:)(:):) ]] #25-ABABBATOK [CAPRICORN 08º–CAPRICORN 15º] ~ ZONE 7::4 (Abracadabra) Regenerator: Cyclic Chronodemon of Suspended Decay; Shadows Hold-Current; Frankensteinian experimentation (reanimations, golems); Purifications, amphibious cycles (and healing of wounds); Sustenance (smoke visions).

#5651-TRAVERSA {05Aq58} [OCULUS] • Compass Rose: SW by S • 3RD EYE CHAKRA {Anja} • DISTANCE: 214º FROM YILDUN @ PATH 6: INTELLIGENCE of the MEDIATING INFLUENCE–The SIXTH (Original #6) Path is TIPHARET (Beauty) = VI The Hexad (Sices) :: EON PHASE: 22 (Phase Arc 210º ~ Waning Quincunx) : Initiation, Shared Values, Exchanging Energies, Redefining • 31-STAR PRIME SERIES: [20]-[36]-[85] :: PRIME NUMBERS: [71]-[151]-[439] -- [[ TX PRIME [020] 071 = (((:))::) ]] #28-MINOMMO [AQUARIUS 02º–AQUARIUS 09º] ~ ZONE 8::0 Webmaker: Amphidemon of Submergance; 8th Door (Limbo); Shamanic voyage (dream sorcery and mitochondrial chatter).

#7009-HUME {29Ta14} [ALCYONE] • Compass Rose: NW by N • CROWN CHAKRA {Sahasrara} • DISTANCE: 328º FROM YILDUN @ PATH 1: ADMIRABLE or HIDDEN INTELLIGENCE–The FIRST (Original #1) Path is KETHER (Crown) = I THE MONAD (Aces) :: EON PHASE: 35 (Phase Arc 324º ~ Waning Decile) : Continuation, Acutalized Qualities, Best & Worst, Mutating • 31-STAR PRIME SERIES: [30]-[46]-[65] :: PRIME NUMBERS: [113]-[199]-[313] -- [[ TX PRIME [030] 113 = (((:))(:):) ]] #42-UNNUTCHI [TAURUS 24º–GEMINI 01º] ~ ZONE 9::6 Tachyonic immobility (slow vortex): Chaotic Xenodemon of Coiling Outsideness; Asymmetric zygopoise (and cybernetic anomalies).

The lunatics have taken over the asylum ...

:þ

hmm.

LUNATICS = SHOGGOTH

AQ 222 = ADOLF EICHMANN = ADDRESS SPACE = AMPHIBOLOGY = DISCUSSION = DOUBLE-AGENCY = FRUSTRATED = GEO-REQUEST = PURGATORY = SHIT-STORM = SOLIDARITY = [WOMAN=OTHER]

AQ 139 = EICHMANN = FICTION = MATRIX = SHANGHAI = SILVER = U-TURN = YILDUN

AQ 02 = DACHAU = AFRICA = BEAST = EBLIS = GRAIL = RELIC = SHIT = ZAHAK

translated "eich" at bablefish and got "calibrate". totally wrong. but searching around discovered kennedy may have said "i am a jelly donut". in german, "kalibrieren" is calibrate; "eichen" is also calibrate but it means "compare the readings of (an instrument) with those of a standard (and adjust the instrument as necessary)" -- once standard verified a "seal" is received (see link).

discussion: eichen, kalibrieren, justieren
http://forum.dict.cc/forum-questions/detail-25245-eichen-kalibrieren-justieren.html

AQ 98 = EICHEN = ADONAI = MAGICK = TRACK = XERO- = AIWAS = CUPID = CHESED = SCARAB = TABOO = WHEEL

interestingly, one of the asteroids on the biglist is ISO on path 34 (new seed released). ISO is the International Organization for Standardization -- the ISO deals with eichen, kalibrieren & justieren.

------

pondering: why did ward churchill choose Eichmann and not Himmler (wiki: Himmler chief architect of the Holocaust)? or. what are the eichmann-characteristics of the wtc? interesting:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eichmann
"A footnote to Eichmann's SS career focuses on the point as to why he was never promoted to the rank of full SS-Colonel, known as Standartenführer. With Eichmann's record and responsibilities, he would have been a prime candidate for promotion yet, after 1941, his SS record contains no evidence that he was ever even recommended for another promotion. Many have speculated that Ernst Kaltenbrunner may have seen Eichmann as a dangerous man, rising through the SS ranks, and had curbed his SS career to prevent Eichmann from becoming too powerful."

Himmler = ophemelen = praise = raise = erase =

trace

Eichman = standard = wtc elite

In Holland there is flap about a leftist

millionair bestselling babyface who compared Ayaan

Hirsi Ali and Theo van Gogh's collaboration on the

short film Submission mixing Dutch nudity with the

the extremes of Islamic culture to Goebbels

portrayal of Jews.

He has recently said he regretted it and that it

was done too hastily.

I'd take peerless diatribalism nobody pays

(conscious) attention to over chief architecture

anyaeon.

". . . becoming too powerful." ---- remember there

are few footholds at the top of a pyramidal

(command) structure. Typically a place for

mechanical ingenuity, not 'personality'; I used

fishing swivels on my octahedron kite ... .

A rock can never become too powderfull, its

powderfullness is always perfect.

And now, a change of plan; 6 standard euro time 9

pacific standard time we (me, and whoever else, we

((me, and whoever else, we (((me, and whoever

else, we will see))) will see)) will see) won't

stand for being stood up; be here:

http://chaozation.com/index.php?choice=openchat#ch

at if you want a chance at being held dear

even if you hate chatting go there

it's the prettiest, smartest, most easy to read,

one of the most informative and suprising pages I

have come across in a long time.

this is what it says now:

Hi from Lesley: I am looking for a diagram of the pleasure patheway for class
Aron: http://utopia.utexas.edu/project/brainwaves/pleasure.html
Aron: hope that is helpful for you Lesley
Hoo: don't mug yourself
Hoo: feek proud
: http://www.heaven-or-hell-its-your-choice.com/index.htm
M: "Abandon your research or you will be regret. You have been warned."
[Pleiadian]Guest127: be regret? what?
: http://www.zapatopi.net/mindguard.html
Aron: happy tuesday!
Aron: http://www.englishheathenism.homestead.com/tiw.html
Aron: Main Entry: Tues·day
Aron: Etymology: Middle English tiwesday, from Old English tIwesdæg (akin to Old High German zIostag Tuesday), from Old English TIw Tiu + dæg day -- more at DEITY
: Tiw is wit
Hooray: glortadsi.all
http://occultrevolt.us stuff about darfur, etcetera

more history:

http://chaozation.com/discuss/discussion.php#anchor

oh by the way, that beautiful page that I praised so bootifooly needs an above average monitor quality to really bring it out.

. . ..and nick, .. . .

to make up for a hands and feet full of off topic blabber (I'll grant myself, save you the trouble, it had a bubble of blubber here and there) I present one speseeally for u

>From: Doug Henwood
>
>[The more I read stuff like this the more I think the bubble didn't really
>burst in 2000.]
>
>New York Times Magazine - March 13, 2005
>
>THE WAY WE LIVE NOW
>Our Currency, Your Problem
>By NIALL FERGUSON
>
>... Meanwhile, the United States may be discovering what the British found
>in their imperial heyday. If you are a truly powerful empire, you can
>borrow a lot of money at surprisingly reasonable rates. Today's deficits
>are in fact dwarfed in relative terms by the amounts the British borrowed
>to finance their Global War on (French) Terror between 1793 and 1815. Yet
>British long-term rates in that era averaged just 4.77 percent, and the
>pound's exchange rate was restored to its prewar level within a few years
>of peace.
>
>It is only when your power wanes -- as the British learned after 1945 --
>that owing a fortune in your own currency becomes a real problem. As
>opposed, that is, to someone else's problem.

The more I read stuff like this the more I wonder why anyone would respond
when imperial bugle boy Niall Ferguson sounds the call to advance. What a
great role model, the UK. The US, too, can aspire to be an imperial
has-been with a corroded industrial base, overdeveloped financial sector and
lingering delusions of grandeur despite being a mere lackey to the world's
latest hegemon. Sounds great! Where do we sign up?

Carl

p - great thing about this US vs (Old) Europe discussion is that ultimately it's strongly empirical (whoever crashes and burns first, it will demonstrate a lot of interesting things) - sure we'll have another round of this soon ...

northanger - "LUNATICS = SHOGGOTH" - damn, you're good at this [face paralyzed in grimace of reluctant awe [+ þ]]

NICHOLAS LAND = ASMODAI-BELIAL = PARASITE EVE

RELUCTANT AWE = NARCISSISTIC = MOTHERFUCKER
(rotflmao, honest! it's the nummifier, i mean no disrespect in any way. just doing my job!)

btw. ASMODAI-BELIAL two most powerful goëtic demons: ASMODEUS on the biglist is day demon AQUARIUS 10°–15°, BELIAL is night demon AQUARIUS 15°–20° (night demons = "occult"). apparently, Aquarius 15° is some type of aeonic gateway. on biglist, asteroids KLIO, ASMODEUS & ANTARCTICA conjunct.

[1] "Mountains of Madness" occurs on antarctic continent (artic = north pole // antarctica = south pole).

[2] KLIO muse of heroic poetry and history; seen with parchment scroll or a set of tablets; name means "to celebrate"; known as the Proclaimer - genus of polar pteropods named after her: (Clione papilonacea abundant in arctic ocean; food for greenland whale).

[3] asteroid HYPERBOREA currently 15Aq12 near fixed star OCULUS (eye). AQ15 ruled by p-demon MUR, Dream-Serpent: Syzygetic Chronodemon of the Deep Ones. Hyperboreans mythical race, "beyond the north wind", sun shines 24/7. Lovecraft, Robert E. Howard & Clark Ashton Smith participated in threeway hyperborean-atlantis cycle. also, Hyperborea plays some type of role in nazi mysticism.

lastly, asteroid LIBERA (aka Ariadne; latin :: free, unimpeded; void of; outspoken, frank; licentious) is also conjunct ANTARCTICA; Liber Ivonis ("Book of Eibon"; part of cthulhu mythos) book of black magic by wizard from ... Hyperborea.

gimme a minute to wiki up on Clark Ashton Smith and the other guy (not that I am all through my Lovecraft reading assignments yet but .. .) and then join me at http://chaozation.com/index.php?choice=openchat#ch

All fled--all done, so lift me on the pyre--
The Feast is over, and the lamps expire.

one of these dudes writes this, age 30, on the day he shoots himself over mama being 'terminally comatose'; now, I get depressed over what the medical world manages .. .. .new humorous hospital series with comical speed ups and slow downs and weird nipple masturbation scenes notwithstanding. . . but .. ..

HYPERBOREA = APOCALYPSE = MAUVE ZONE = HACKED STUFF = HEREDITARY = SPECIAL.IST

chaozation poem 'pakal' starts like this:

ROOT

Cause's Effect

as the big red penis of change

pierces the hymen of society

blood flows

filling the cups of the poor

in righteous revenge

then it drops the (promising dust)ball and keeps going in a Buddhic curse/condem key, still without punctuation, even to the point of earth betrayal or rather accusing those not renouncing of betrayal bigger and better things superterrestrial nobility

fuchk that

p - latest (poem) sounds like MKP territory (prolecult phallobabble)

this is what sounding the suffering of the world on your soldier. ..eh . ..shoulders .. . .sounds like (when you do stuff like smoking on the side; I know cause I do).

http://www.jsonline.com/bin/website/ramfiles/graphicsnewsmediamar05churchill030105.ram

"I know cause I do" - yes, but you hide it well ...