If anyone is still interested in chewing over the meaning and mutations of political labels, this discussion of vocabulary at the centre of the contemporary Anglospherean political universe might be a good jumping-off point.
It follows upon Glenn Reynolds' response to this rather unappetizing suggestion.
"Looking at the list of 'crunchy con' characteristics on the back cover I'm quite sure I don't fit the description (can you be a libertarian transhumanist crunchy-con? I doubt it) ..."
Posted by Old Nick at February 22, 2006 05:23 AM | TrackBackhey! you're *good*. i'm now totally confused about this neo-conservative thingy. or, maybe not. POTUS isn't neo-con.
Posted by: northanger at February 22, 2006 06:15 AMnorthanger - well this article doesn't really venture into the byzantine 'neocon' labyrinth (the Roger L Simon thread (repeat: www.rogerlsimon.com/mt-archives/2006/02/fukuyama_opts_o.php) more relevant to that. I agree (?) that it should definitely be part of our discussion here, if it gets moving.
Is Bush a neocon? Is he even a conservative? He's certainly a Republican, but of a new and IMHO troubling variety ('compassionate conservatives' with endless commitment to expanding the role of government).
Think there's any chance of getting Glenn Reynolds to run in '08?
More on the ghastly Crunchy-con thingy:
www.opinionjournal.com/la/?id=110007996
>>Is Bush a neocon?
could't you argue (using nospeedbumps' list) that #1 kinda offsets numbers 2-4?
northanger - but Mr Speedbumps doesn't seem interested in the neocon label, he's merely trying to corral wayward libertarians and other pro-market 'but' socially liberal types into the Conservative camp, which is all well and good until you bump into the Crunchy-Cons, who apparently hate all of this revolutionary market stuff and want to get people back tending their orchards.
Yes, Bush seems relatively solid on #1, and the tax-cutting is nice, but after that I begin to lose the plot ... Still, he drives all the right people crazy, so there's entertainment value.
nick - gotta admit, that god-bit kinda a bit much on the CC thing. but overall, i like it.
>>I begin to lose the plot
wait. i read somewhere nobody knows where POTUS is going really. the nail-biting suspense! it's like watching 24 kinda.
Posted by: northanger at February 22, 2006 07:24 AMnick - what's wrong with Cincinnatus returning to the orchard?
Posted by: northanger at February 22, 2006 07:30 AMThey'll start thinking they've got the right to interfere with the employment practices in our shoggothic nano-plague factory ...
Posted by: Nick at February 22, 2006 07:54 AMnospeedbumps.com/?p=701 The Left/Right Camps in the Blogosphere
very true and a think I noticed long ago. On my first page I divide lef and rite diff.
further into them I show advizability to turn the whole thing 90 degrees and focus on bottom and top borders of biosphere bottom once to be 'organized' in primal sense of the word, flesh them out if you will (manmade desert remediation, that is, multicultivating and mixing 'mother rocks to remedy inter-regional trace mineral imbalance). Studying the primate transitions between peace and war as in 'demonic males', 'saharasia' and Kummer's work (write up here: www.foreignaffairs.org/20060101faessay85110/robert-m-sapolsky/a-natural-history-of-peace.html?mode=print -) would help.